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Update to 4.7.0 question
Last Post 03/30/2010 01:10 AM by burggraf. 20 Replies.
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Avantihall
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03/21/2010 08:00 AM  
I have 9 bible versions one being NLT, 8 comm. etc. My question is : if I backup then down load NLT 1st will all work correctly? Or should I wait for other versons to get approved with the 4.7.0 before I update? And what is 4.7.1, anything to worry about?

Any luck asking NASS for ( * ) like NLT has, yet?
Love you app.
Can't wait to see newest features you've done!:)
burggraf
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03/23/2010 01:16 AM  
If you download the 4.7.0 version of NLT from the app store, it will work fine, but you will need to download all your other purchases to that version. If you just wait for the other versions of 4.7.0 to be released, you will not need to download all your stuff again.

No word on a version of NASS with cross-references yet.
shamlin
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03/26/2010 05:12 PM  
I just grabbed the NLT because in spite of the fact that I spend more time with Mantis than any other app on my iPhone, It seems I *still* haven't learned patience.

So what's new in 4.7? Is there a "what's new" list in the app so we can avoid bugging you in the future with pesky questions like this?
burggraf
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03/27/2010 05:23 AM  
We will post the "What's new in 4.7.0" once our updates get through Apple.

There are basically 3 major new features in 4.7.0:

1. New Search Screen (allows you to search across all installed volumes at the same time, select specific books of the Bible to filter the search, and allows you to view the entire verse for each "hit" and drill-down to strongs numbers, etc., all in the search screen.)

2. Memorization Module (tap a verse number in the reader screen, then tap the heart (memorize) icon.) There's help for this if you tap the (?) icon in the verse pop-in menu.

3. Text-to-speech (this requires the purchase of an add-on voice.) There are 5 voices available for $1.99 each. Once you have a voice installed (they are about 50mb each, so be prepared for a long download) then Mantis will read out loud to you. Any installed volume can be read. It's not perfect, but it works very well. To access this, tap Tools, then tap the new "speech" icon on the toolbar.
KevinPurcell
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03/27/2010 06:43 PM  
The text to speech will be great! Can't wait to see it and review it.
shamlin
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03/28/2010 02:12 AM  
Are the voices available? I don't see where they can be purchased. Trying to do it from in the app says it's not available.
burggraf
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03/28/2010 03:32 AM  
Apple has not approved the voices for in-app-purchase yet, but we'll put them up on the web site for purchase, though -- hopefully this weekend.
Avantihall
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03/28/2010 04:35 AM  
WHOW this is great stuff! Love the way the search engine will look at all my 28 volumes at one time or just what I choose. Is there a way to lock my choices and shake to clear the thousand verses I open? I just looked up the word "Grace" : took 36 seconds and come up with = Bibles : KJV (159), KJVR (159), NIV (123), NASS (122), DRB (146), WEB (131), NLT (86), KJVA (172), WBS (158), My Notes (2), Comm. : DARB (655), RSBN(78), TSK (67), ACCB (926), JCAC (612), MCGE (576), PNT (115), Dict. : EBD (75), SCRF (10), TNTT (60), FBD (147), WFIB (53), Book : IHS (6), BOTZ (49), SIMP (723), AOG (66). And with all of this they also expands to the verse, and it will jump to the volume also.
When it reads (1000) is that a limit? Can the remaining be requested? Is there a spell help available in the search?
thank you for checking on the (*).
Well, does anyone ever get any sleep.
Is there a way to lock my "download remaining notes", so they stay in my Ipod.
Is there a help to show all the Tools:Options: on what they all do. I've figured most. But I may be missing some more of your outstanding software options.
Thank you and Keep losing sleep doing such an outstanding job!
burggraf
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03/28/2010 06:57 AM  
1000 is the limit for searches. Any more than that and we figure you're better off just reading the whole Bible! :)

The iPhone keyboard should help you with spelling automatically.

All notes are always stored on the device -- there is no downloading involved. By default the notes screen will only load the first 20 notes (to speed up the display.) You tap to load the rest (but they are loaded from the device just like the first 20 are.)

If you have questions about any of the Tools, Options items, just let us know!
burggraf
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03/28/2010 07:20 AM  
The voices are now available on the web site (look under NEW at the top menu.)
burggraf
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03/28/2010 08:21 AM  
"What's NEW in 4.7.0" has been posted (you'll find it in the Support menu.)

Apple has not released it yet, but it is available with the NLT version.
shamlin
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03/29/2010 01:20 AM  
Outstanding update once again. Search was immediately obvious how valuable it would be. And the ability to have the Bible read to me when my eyes are too weary or when driving or something is superb! I actually did this on my main computer with Text Aloud, but it never occurred to me to think of it as a potential feature for Mantis. When I first read the Memorize thing I was like...uh--ok, that's cool, but now that I've checked it out---boy you really thought it through and made it valuable. Impressive work as usual!! You continue to make Mantis more than I could hope for. Thank you!
Avantihall
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03/29/2010 01:24 AM  
On my iPod touch it doesn't automatic spell, can't find where to turn it on or where the setting are for it. I really would like that feature. Example = I spelled spirit "sprit" nothing found. Lots of words in the Bibles are very hard for my pea brain to spell correctly!
Ok, what is "hide status bar" and"justification" used for?
Like wow, no WOW, on 4.7, this stuff is outstanding. All this and still great speed too!!!
burggraf
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03/29/2010 04:19 AM  
"Hide Status Bar" gets rid of the top status bar (with the clock and such) when you are in full-screen mode.

Justification formats the text so it aligns both on the left and on the right sides.
Genesis
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03/29/2010 12:10 PM  
is there a way to 'preview' the voices before committing to it? thanks!
Genesis
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03/29/2010 12:32 PM  
nevermind, found it... :o)
Life Pastor
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03/29/2010 04:27 PM  
The update is AWESOME.... Well worth the wait. Going to buy a voice NOOOOOWWWWWW.
burggraf
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03/29/2010 04:45 PM  
Yes, of course you can (and should) preview any of the voices before you purchase. The voices are really good (except the "kids" ones, maybe) but they're not perfect. They're not going to pronounce a good lot of Biblical words and names correctly. In the future, we hope to be able to correct individual word pronounciation and make it even better.
armoir
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03/29/2010 07:07 PM  
Love the 4.7 update! Justification and getting rid of the status bar options are very much appreciated!!
Life Pastor
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03/29/2010 07:31 PM  
Will the ipad version be the same as 4.7 or should we expect something a little different? I love the new search functions.
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