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Ante-Nicene Fathers
Last Post 06/03/2009 04:11 PM by burggraf. 23 Replies.
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jt999
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06/03/2009 12:07 AM  
I purchased the Nicene Early Church Fathers when it was released thinking that it would include the Ante-Nicene Fathers. The description said that it included "writings from the first 800 years of the church."

Unfortunately, I did not read the fine print.
Only the Nicene and the Post-Nicene writings are included; NOT the ante-Nicene.
It is a bit confusing.

Jeff
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06/03/2009 04:30 AM  
I'm not sure how much more clear we could be. Here's exactly what the web site says about it:

Nicene Early Church Fathers: 14 Volume Set
(Post-Nicene Series II)

The Early Church Fathers is a collection of writings from the first 800 years of the Church. This product contains the Nicene and Post-Nicene Series II (NPNF2), consisting of 14 volumes.

Set Includes:

* Volume 1: Prolegomena: St. Augustine's Life and Work, Confessions, Letters
* Volume 2: The City of God, Christian Doctrine
* Volume 3: On the Holy Trinity, Doctrinal Treatises, Moral Treatises
* Volume 4: The Anti-Manichaean Writings, The Anti-Donatist Writings
* Volume 5: Anti-Pelagian Writings
* Volume 6: Sermon on the Mount, Harmony of the Gospels, Homilies on the Gospels
* Volume 7: Homilies on the Gospel of John, Homilies on the First Epistle of John, Soliloquies
* Volume 8: Expositions on the Psalms
* Volume 9: On the Priesthood, Ascetic Treatises, Select Homilies and Letters, Homilies on the Statutes
* Volume 10: Homilies on the Gospel of St. Matthew
* Volume 11: Homilies on the Acts of the Apostles and the Epistle to the Romans
* Volume 12: Homilies on First and Second Corinthians
* Volume 13: Homilies on the Epistles to the Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, and Philemon
* Volume 14: Homilies on the Gospel of St. John and the Epistle to the Hebrews


We may do more of the Ante-Nicene series -- I'm just not sure how soon we'll be able to do them. Hopefully soon, though.
jt999
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06/03/2009 05:12 AM  
I am not complaining and I do not regret the purchase, as the post-Nicene writings are very interesting.

But I am not a Bible scholar and I did not know the exact contents of each volume. For example, Volume 3 says: "on the Holy Trinity, Doctrinal Treatises, Moral Treatises."

I assumed that this would include writings on these topics "from the first 800 years of the Church;" not just writings on these topics AFTER the Council of Nicea. I thought that "Nicene and Post-Nicene" meant before and after.

You state in your post that you may do more of the "ANTE-Nicene" series, but my point is that there are absolutely no ANTE-Nicene writings included; only POST-Nicene writings. I do think it is confusing to refer to this resource as an "Ante-Nicene series."

As I said, I do not regret buying this resource; it is very interesting.
I love my Manits Bible Study Software
It is my favorite application, and I use it every day.

I also appreciate the unbelievable effort you put in to making Mantis better and better.
Your customer service and willingness to respond on the forums is amazing.

Thanks,

Jeff

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06/03/2009 04:11 PM  
Thanks for you input -- we really appreciate it. We really want to do our best to make sure it's clear what each item contains. I'll see what we can do about the descriptions, and I'll also see how soon we can bring the rest of the Nicene series to Mantis.
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